Eden fractal 38
00:13 Dan welcomes everyone to meeting, shares brief presentation of show notes, last weeks meeting, proposal on agreements, brainstorming session, telegram live chat. Talked briefly about Vlad’s and Dans video discussing fractal stuff. Topic voting, proposals that were made.
4:54 Douglas shares pitch for Aquarius academy, going forward within the next couple of weeks with it. Plans on implementing eden fractal tools. Stoked on consortium
6:05 Dan gives shout to Vlad for consortium, as well as Patrick, Tadas and lennie who helped design the system where we can vote on topics on consortium. Current Topic with most topics on consortium is what is the vision of eden fractal, then eden fractal participant agreement. Starts jump into breakout rooms
7:33 breakout room video by Dan
10:12 Patrick volunteers to moderate room. Shares his presentation first, speaks of attending town hall. Shares tweet link for cockpit for eos bees. Tweet is a paid swarm by Patrick, his contribution. Working on project behind scene, will reveal soon. Will do update on Eden fractal with Dan. Cockpit will help to have good visibility. Creating a lot of content for Eos
14:57 Rosmari gives presentation, working on welcome guide for Eden fractal. Guide is now formalized, Rosmari shares screen of welcome guide, goes into details, links, tools used, collaboration. Also has link where others can add I put.
18:14 Lennie speaks of recaps that he does, Eden fractal, eos
19:20 Dan shares screen , worked on show notes. Produced video, writings on agreements, delegate proxies, multiple curation on projects. Vlad and dans Eden fractal stuff video. Worked with Rosmari on welcome guide. Published Eden town hall, hosted town hall. Put together an article on Eden fractal mission, proposal on vision, mission, participation agreement.
23:25 Pascal shares screen, last week launched Thiago Re. Monitoring content, going well. Introduced Thiago token, it’s about liquidity. Trying to create basic liquidity. Trying to contribute to Eden fractal vision, likes Rosmari welcome guide, has ideas in Eden fractal token , would love to give it value
27:29 Dan asks if anyone has any questions for anyone,
28:92 Patrick suggests moving on to vote
28:29 Pascal asks Lennie where he us publishing weekly recaps
28:46 lennie responds to pascal, shares his recaps on telegram, Twitter,Reddit, Facebook, 4 or 5 telegram groups. Every recap has links.
29:35 Rosmari and Patrick have conversation on update on the cockpit and the pomelo tracking. new metrics, ie number of views and filters. Patrick responds that metrics aren’t coming from him, they are coming from the bees managed by Jesse jaffe and nicoli. Explains how it is working. Patrick is creating the cockpit for the swarm and other communities. Explains pomelo mindmap collections. Mindmap gives visibility to others as well. Explains cockpit definition and swarm’s definition
34:51 Pascal if he’s had an opportunity to discuss with Vlad the utility of Eden token
35:00 Dan and Pascal have conversation on Edens token and value . Pascal not understanding , it can’t be sent, it has no value. Understands it’s a reputation token, needs to be clarified. Dan is encouraging everyone to use token for voting, following the lead of genesis fractal. Not putting value on for one year.
40:30 Pascal gives update on Thiago Re, has two objectives in mind. One is ti create Thiago Re council to work with fractal governance. another is to delegate council members Thiago power to share the Thiago tokens. Explains possibility of liquidity
42:40 Dan thanks Pascal on Thiago Re explanation, starts consensus vote, using fractal-gram, explains how to use.
46:09 Pascal asks Rosmari if she is working on that document with Dan or was it your interest
46:15 Rosmari cop responded Dan helped her a lot, he gave direction, provided links. It’s been a collaboration with Dan
48:33 Lennie comments on Rosmari welcome guide, it is much needed, Patrick agrees Rosmari showing a lot of engagement
58:00 whole group has conversation on delegates, what’s is needed, topics and vote time.
1:00:16 Dan explains how fractal gram app works, notes there is a mistake on level six, goes over issue
1:05:58 Dan welcomes everyone back to main room, shares link for everyone to enter consensus results
1:06:49 Noam comments he and joe had issues with no access to eos account
1:07:32 Dan apologizes for confusion, appreciates patience. Will send account opened from last week. Arron cox recached to Dan and gave him free account codes.
1:10:25 Joe listened a bit to more equal animals ti get a better understanding, excited to be involved. Also had wallet issues.
1:13:00 Noam understanding system a little better after meeting with Dan and Rosmari. Hoping within next few weeks be able to help Rosmari with welcome guide.
1:15:33 Dan shares consortium screen, topic with most votes is what is vision of . 'Agenda has 2 proposals for mission, one from Dan, one from Patrick. Encourages everyone to make proposal. Dan answers Noam’s question that respect points for voting are non exhaustible. Dan goes into the topic that he proposed , what is the vision of eden fractal. Spent time this week listening over previous meeting, inspired by Eric’s statement of vision. Curated some of what Eric said and James mart article. Shares screen about article that he wrote on mission and vision, dan sees how the vision can interact with the mission. Reads out bullet points of article, how the vision plays a huge part in the mission. Goes into more details about the article. Interested to hear what everyone thinks
1:23:23 Eric comments about key parts of the vision, when it’s easily understandable. The other thing it should be clear who your helping and solving. Mission is what do we need to do to get there. Curse of knowledge probably biggest danger, we assume people get it because we get it
1:26:17 Perry has his response to the vision, speaks on his interpretation of eos constitution. Thinks pieces are coming together. Chris Barnes is taking initiative to take on arbitration and Joshua Seymour us taking the idea of tying together communities. Also sees this here at Eden fractal, Lennie , Dan , Patrick all coming together as three states. Sees Judicial branch in dgov, Legislative branch in power of policy with what Joshua’s is creating and see it here an opportunity to create an estate of the press. Suggests we become the group that promotes and facilitates for the press. Pushing for Dnews to make simple step, connection between decision making body and media. How would it work, gives his ideas.
1:34:26 Dan jumps in , reminds everyone about telegram chat , move on to hear others comments on vision
1:35:29 Douglas gives his definition of vision, one vision is an idealized version of the world. Mission becomes what you hope to do to accomplish, then foundation which are core beliefs. What is the world we want to create, what is the common desire. How can we make it one sentence where it’s communicable
1:37:49 Eric thinks what Douglas said is right on, what to we have to do to get as far as we can to getting there. Doesn’t see the problem to solve that Perry Has mentioned
1:39:08 Perry and Eric discuss Perry’s idea the problem need solving, is to keep a check on power. Eric thinks it needs to be more specific to this community
1:49:38 Dan reads out comments from chats. Vision idea can help inspire each other. Moving on to next topic , the Eden fractal participant agreement. Dan shares screen on Eden fractal participant agreement. This is a proposal so we could potentially pass it. Joe asks Dan, going back to vision, if there is a timeline for it to be set. Dan said there is no timeline, several members that want to prioritize mission, but nothing set yet. Dan shares screen on participation agreement,. Agreement is a basic version, read and speak in english, consent to record and share recorded meetings, acknowledge all videos will remain public. Wants to put it in software and see how it works. We want to make agreement simple. Planning to start a telegram start up group. If delegates want to vote, Dan could put topic in telegram.
1:48:43 Joe thinks it sounds reasonable, good idea.
1:49:26 Tadas thanks Dan for proposing, he supports this agreement. Thinks it’s important. Requirement for consent to be recorded is important
1:50:10 Perry asked Dan if he was going to share the link
1:50:38 Lennie says he would abstain in his vote because there are a few fundamentals, for instance what are the vote numbers
1:51:07 Dan responded he asked Tadas. As Tadas is the original creator of Eden plus fractal process. Tadas replies 2/3 is the vote. Sees the participation agreement to protect each other from liabilities. Doesn’t need to include rules for how we do stuff. Lennie commented we don’t have the fundamentals, thinks we should set that first. Tadas asks Lennie to clarify his fundamental questions.
1:54:47 Dan shares telegram screen to show how it could be voted on, this could making voting more efficient. Dan clarifies the participation agreement, the proposal is to set an agreement action.
1:56:53 Patrick votes no on this agreement because it’s not a good moment to pass, thinks it should brainstorm this. Not sure about agreeing to all recording. Too much that’s not clear.
1:59:39 Dan thinks discussing at next brainstorming session could be a good option.
1:59:52 Perry appreciates the desire to begin creating a set of bylaws. Supports that effort but thinks the principles,values and vision sound be decided first.questions Patrick on moving participation agreement discussion to brainstorming, he is opposed to that
2:02:49 Tadas wanted to respond to both Perry and Patrick, he looks at participation agreement differently, he doesn’t think that it should define what we are doing. It should strictly be a document that participants sign before participating to protect themselves and other participants from legal perspective. This is What this particular agreement should serve. To Patrick I would say, that we are voting for these two clauses that may be changed later as needed.
2:04:31 Patrick responds to Tadas that he is aligned with Lennie and Vlad, thinks it should be brainstormed.
2:06:16 Dan clarifies the agreement doesn’t say all participants will be recorded , but it gives more protection to someone like himself who shares the videos, it protects them from liabilities
2:07:32 joe comments after reading verbiage it didn’t say everyone was going to be posted. Transparency is important, thinks the waive to get rid of the liability is a smart move
2:08:45 Dan comments that as he is the one sharing these videos, if someone has a problem with parts of videos to reach out. Wants to give everyone best experience possible but in general Dan thinks sharing the videos help the community grow more
2:09:23 Patrick shares his proposal, if you create something public good, incentivize mechanisms, rewards. Eden fractal is the catalyst to smart collaboration, using web 3 solutions. That is my mission and vision. Need to find the objectives and grow, good intent good output. Need better delegates.
2:17:42 Rosmari asks Patrick how he envisions collaboration, an idea is using it in notion. It’s good for referencing back. She may consider to majestic a proposal for using notion.
2:19:46 Patrick responds he does a lot of collaboration behind the scene, next Eden fractal interview upcoming, uses mindmap, brainstorming session,need to create collaborative culture
2:25:51 Dan let’s try to wrap it up in 10 min
2:26:54 Perry and Patrick conversation, Perry asks what is the relationship between this proposal and the APIs that he’s suggesting and the proposal that by wire has suggested, any relationship between the two, Patrick responds no relation. It’s using web 3 solution open source. He’s integrating some piece of this into his software. Perry talks about comparison to Patrick’s and bywire proposal.
2:29:45 Dan steps in to clarify Patrick’s proposal, proposal is smart collaboration between verified humans and web 3 solution, no mention of API.
2:30:36 Perry thinks if anyone is paying attention is that bywire is being set up to be driving force, feels honesty is needed, Patrick responds to Perry the proposal he made. Yes he is using API, he has not stated bywire only stated what he is doing for himself.
2:32:59 Dan briefly comments to Perry he will discuss this further on separate call, Dan does not agree with Perry. Moves on to next topic, briefly shows mission screen
Dan proposal our mission is to promote collaboration, create public goods and empower communities. This was inspired by the show he and Vlad did, check out show notes. Goal is to Expand our community beyond eden community. Gives resources and events coming up
Dan wraps up meeting—go eden fractal