Eden Fractal's Mission, Intents, and Future- Conversation with Dan and Rosmari (Audio File, Summary, and Transcript)
Summary:
In this conversation, Dan and Rosmari discuss the mission and future plans of Eden Fractal. They talk about the need for a more detailed mission and the importance of understanding what a fractal community means. They also mention the use of consensus games, specifically the Respect game, and how it helps in organizing activities and facilitating cooperation within the community. They discuss the idea of having specific intents with measurable outcomes to provide more details about the vision. Additionally, they mention the potential benefits of joining Eden Fractal for different stakeholders, such as investors, viewers, participants, and builders. They also touch upon the concept of public goods games and the role of the Respect game in fostering collaborations and network building. The conversation concludes with the idea of creating specific pages for investors and different target audiences on the website.
Transcript:
- Dan and Rosmari discuss the need for a more detailed mission and elaboration on the concept of fractal communities.
- They mention the use of consensus games, specifically the Respect game, in organizing activities and facilitating cooperation within the community.
- The idea of having specific intents with measurable outcomes is proposed to provide more details about the vision.
- The potential benefits of joining Eden Fractal for different stakeholders, such as investors, viewers, participants, and builders, are discussed.
- They touch upon the concept of public goods games and the role of the Respect game in fostering collaborations and network building.
- Specific pages for investors and different target audiences on the website are suggested.
Alright, hello, hello.
I'm with Rosemary.
It's a beautiful day.
This is the day before the 76th and 76th of the evening.
Yes.
And so you should have a bunch of thoughts there following up because I was just listening to the 75th of the evening.
The first half hour Rosemary was saying that she that the mission should be more than growing fractals.
And then she just elaborate on that.
It's playing a lot of good points that have actually been more of a supporting document around there to provide more details.
She also mentioned a couple other interesting things to about setting values and the vision and so forth and to talk about doing more-- There are things to do with the research and other examples or examples of organizations like Patagonia and their website to see how might be best to do it.
That's kind of how it will over you.
She will go out a lot more or two.
First, we connect to Nike.
Nike, yeah.
And then I'm about to respond.
And you and your liver too.
Okay.
That's an example.
Okay.
Coca-Cola.
For example, this you can recognize that that's from them.
How do you know that?
I've also learned a lot over the years, but we were interested in the go-back and we reflect upon them.
So yeah, and there's a lot that you shared, I mean you spoke about five minutes, that was just a high level overview, and then I was about to respond with how I see it now, what I'm thinking of opposing for tomorrow, is there anything first or four I respond to was me that you wanted to read or going to work?
Okay, okay, cool.
And then I'll join you after I get this idea.
I'll give it a little summary.
So I agree there should be more detail in the mission.
I see value in having a general and short mission that people can rally around and that that people can-- - Not that you-- - It's seen their own way.
- Yeah.
- And put it in their own understanding and involve it in their life in their own way.
But they should be more details to it as well.
And the way I'm currently thinking about proposing it is that we say the mission of Eden fractal is to grow fractal communities.
Still sticking with the proposal from last week because I think that's good for some reasons that I wrote this down too.
So I won't go into all the details while I wrote down.
And I could show you whatever later I'm going to be finding a bit more.
But I think there's been a fit to keeping it like that to grow factor communities.
And along with that, there is intense.
I'm thinking of proposing four intents.
And those intents have some measurable outcomes, like you mentioned with smart, which is specific, measurable, art for a reliant, I don't know, with the action stands for exactly what it did.
It's measurable and stuff like that and things that people can use the progress with.
And I think that those intents can provide the more details about it.
Maybe there's also another page receiving we've got the mission too.
But I think for now what I can propose and what it makes sense is that, have the mission where it's like a few, just like a one sentence, three-word thing.
And then the intents kind of serve that purpose of explaining more details of the vision.
And then over time we can work to enhance that, perhaps in the form of just more details of the mission, or also definitely want to add the vision and values of like that.
And I think one point that you also inspired me of that I want to make a particular note to do is define what is a factor community.
Like it should say that and maybe that's part of the elaboration that just including the intense doesn't serve that purpose.
When people don't know what to do, well, to just elaborate on the simple mission that you have already.
Yeah, so the intense are really more so like specific for the working groups that we already formed for the working groups that are already formed and yeah, for whoever participates kind of those intense would be mostly useful for them so that they can choose whatever they want to focus on mm-hmm Okay interesting, so yeah I agree that should be more in the mission I think I think the vision kind of goes along with that too like, perhaps the mission is only just a short thing, but then the mission is just, I don't know, the circuits that they're before.
It's like the vision is where you're going and the mission is what you're going to need to get that on the medical it is.
But yeah, so for sure, at least have a definition of what practice means is and why one we want to grow of our communities, I think, is essential.
And so-- - You can also introduce enough to Mr.
- Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and I haven't yet written down what effect community is exactly.
So I'd like to specify it, but at the top of my head, it'd be a community that meets on some recurring basis and facilitates or organize the meeting around the respect where there weren't any to the respect and so forth.
- But by playing this consensus game, they were also making an article about.
- Why?
- Why do they do that?
I mean, they could do it for any purpose.
You can't stick with the guys.
One, they can do it for any purpose in that they, like, say for example, if they wanna work with their friends on gardening in the local town, where they wanna grow a YouTube channel or they wanna do scientific research or whatever.
They all have their own purposes and the purpose why specifically they use this respect game is because it helps them do that better.
It helps them coordinate, it helps them cooperate, helps them get along, helps them respect people in a way that makes the community more effective at accomplishing their goal.
- What everyone has to say.
Everyone has a way to avoid their opinion.
- Uh-huh.
- Yeah.
- There's many benefits of it.
- Because we go into the breakout rooms and we, in participants, present their contributions, covering the past, the most recent week, and then each breakout rooms participants rank each others.
Contributions from level 6 to 1, that was the highest.
And then they distribute respect points, which gets stored on chain.
And there's a scoreboard, online tracking the respect points of each player.
- Yep.
So we're working on the article for respect games.
- And it can be expanded much more with games and in other games.
- Yep, for example, speeches and pitch games, you can have it where it's using the respect scores.
to help people make decisions or find out like the best art or - the sports public goods.
- Support public goods.
- Yeah exactly.
So, we're working on that article for the respect game which will include the overview of the rules and how it works as well as the benefits.
And y'all, that stuff that you mentioned there is excellent degree completely.
Also, I don't know if we included the stuff about like having your voice heard in that video that we did about the benefits of it, 'cause we're gonna be publishing that video.
So if we did, we could always add that more and more retail 'cause it's probably some benefits so we didn't include there.
But basically, I think that it's probably good to link to-- - I'm not gonna include the description.
- Okay, yeah.
- The mission is the description.
- Uh-huh.
And the article too, can provide more of the benefits that we didn't mention there.
So, Yeah, basically I think that the mission, if we were to have a short and dynamic mission like growth factor communities, then it's like, "Where are as factor communities?
Are we playing playing blank?
" I do have Yada being that they are organizing their activities around their respect game, and then that could link to a respect game article, or I could just have a short description of the respect game in that same page on the mission, or perhaps also linking to it at some point where people can learn more with their respect game, because it might be best to have that on and it's own super article and keep the mission page shorter without going into all the details about why.
- Yes.
- And so, yeah, basically, like a factor community, it is a community that is organizing its activities around their spec game in recurring meetings.
That might be the simplest way to say it.
We can also say like consensus games in general, but it's really based around the respect game I think, because that's kind of where it's all been from.
And factor communities-- - You look at the game, not respect the respect game.
- Well, sometimes there's respect game with the second sense in the game, that's amazing.
- Yeah, I'd say that the respect game is a content scheme, but there's other kind of content schemes too.
Like you play a content scheme that's different than a content scheme.
- You can have a page called Games.
- Uh-huh.
- And have respect game, features, features, fractal DJ.
- No, no.
- Yeah, if you go to Optimus, 6.
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Yep.
You have like 2 speed, I think.
Yeah.
Does that mean there's also.
Where's the game, though?
It's not really in the drop down.
No, not far.
No, currently it's not live.
It's live, if you go type in, Optimism, , you'll see it.
But it's not linked because it's not very done yet.
But I'm hoping that this week getting the retro-pitched game, and the respect game article is done, then we can make that article live pretty soon.
Or that page live rather, and then we also have fractal DJ, and so forth, and eventually we cut the videos, it's not that we'll be good to add there.
So we have that page in development basically.
And in general, I think there's concepts like consensus games, also this new concept of public goods games.
And these are like a more general concept of which Re-Spect game is one.
But the respect game is also kind of like the foundational consensus game or foundational-- a foundation-- a consensus game or a foundational public goods game that really unlocks and enables a lot more than the scheme's to work better.
You can play pitches, for example, which is one person, one vote.
And that's what we've done it so far, mostly for simplicity, So we tried with signals to which is using the respect game as an input for that.
And ultimately that has a lot of benefits better than one person one book, because one person one vote at some point, that can break down if you have just shown any people or whatever, but the respect game and the points allow is pitches to work better.
So, and that's kind of what the idea of fractal communities based around too.
Like, to some extent, eating fractal is even really being like a fractal community in the sense that when fractal first came out, which is like fractal media, the idea was that why it's called fractalize, like most of it is because it's fractal like going to break our rooms.
There's other meanings of the word fractal too, but that's kind of the main idea.
So if you have a hundred people, it's like that rather than having them all in the same room, you have them going to break it, rooms in a fractal kind of style.
But we have relatively small communities, it's still fractal, but it's not fractal in that main sense.
But still like the core of it is playing that respect game and the every respect game is like a fractal game.
So I don't think we need to go into all that detail about it in the mission, But if we just say like the goal is to go fractal communities and fact of communities are communities that play the respect game on a recurring basis.
That's something that like the or maybe play the respect game and other consensus games to help their community coordinate better or something like that.
and we have a pretty simple definition and that can link to the benefits of why they want to put these back in, as well as what that is.
And so really what we're aiming to do is aiming to spread the amount of communities or grow communities who are playing the respect game.
And then from there.
- But why we want to do that?
- We want to do it because it's really helpful for both everybody in the group and everybody in the world.
Like it's a good thing because if that's something that we're all building businesses around, when we can get more people to put their respect game, How does it help for people for someone to, as an outside person?
Why would that be beneficial for them to join our team?
If you're someone outside, from, and don't know anything about it, and you're reading about, oh, you know, that our mission is growing fractals, you think, why would I want to learn about that?
What would that benefit mean?
As you see, it's going to benefit everyone and it's going to benefit all of us because we're working on a business around it.
But we have to think about what problem do we sow for people?
And that way we have to, based on that, and so we have to market it.
So the messaging dish should be thinking about how, why is our mission important, and why would our mission benefit our, like the clients, our clients, potential clients.
So we have to list ways that we can help our target audience.
Not thinking how much about us.
So do you have an answer?
- Yeah.
So, well, kind of refers to the question specifically So the question was like, why would other people be interested in this basically?
Well, why would other people care that we want to grow, factor communities, what's different than why would they want to be?
- Well, that's helped our target toadios.
So, good point.
And that reminds me of what Eric was saying to about like future self-basically, what's an for the participants?
Yes.
So, if you don't participate, let's say if someone that wants to invest in it's an investor, they want to see how what you're providing as a value, how can be matched with what he wants to put money on, for example.
If he's a GIA, so I'm looking for businesses to put money on.
and I'm just browsing around and way away from you.
And I'm browsing around and I see this project but it's not telling me much about how it can benefit.
Him specifically, like as an investor even, we have to also have a page about investors, for sure.
Yeah, that's something that we've worked with.
Try out the mistakes a bit.
Yeah, she's very flexible.
We're also recording a note about In-Backle's mission too.
I don't know if you want to join our conversation, but you're welcome to if you want.
What's that?
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She called you pets or yeah.
I love pets.
I love them.
Now for a little while I go, I know these different shapes and stuff.
You made a blast.
Yeah.
So, here we started working on a page for investors to optimistic, and I agree we should improve that, especially with the new like fundamental business.
- About us and contact us.
- We already had, we're creating about pages of very high priority 5 to 6 and in the time of the event.
- Contact.
- Disgort.
- Yeah, there's a discord link at the bottom of it.
But I think for now, just an about page could suffice, and it could include both contact and team.
team as well as general overview of us just to keep it simple and then yeah regarding other points we have to maybe write it down or maybe just come up with ways what is that right down what we can mission within the mission and that will be useful investors to see or our target audience.
- Yeah, well at this point, I think investors are target audience in somewhat in their future, like in coming weeks and months, but right now I think we just need a mission that the community itself can really round.
And then we can elaborate on that.
And all the mission should be like, I mean, I guess as something sent to all people, our investors invest in time and energy, It's been a fun to find investors.
But right now we're not looking for some investor just straight up, just give capital for it because they don't have a structure for that at the current moment.
So we wanted to do that at some point soon, but.
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- Oh.
- We're looking for whatever comes with.
- Yeah, and that there wasn't an investor who wanted to fund, for sure, that's great and we can figure out a way to make that work.
But.
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I'm an agreement that we should have paid for investors and the Pacific Financial Sense of the Term investors.
And that should come soon.
And right now, like our main target audience, so we want one of the most focused on is the people who are joining meetings, people are interested in the meetings, and people are watching and so forth, as well as the people who we are the most immediate audiences which includes investors, or anybody else who might be interested in joining.
And to question about like, what would they get out of it?
are they want to join or they care where a factor community is in the second game.
If one thing, we're going to have the page about the benefits of your spec game.
If another thing, I don't know article about EOS respect, which is EOS supports the Eden-like initiative, their directions they have like 10 reasons to join EOS respect.
And I think that we could do a similar thing for Eden-fractal as well.
Like when we already talked about a lot of those but we don't have them anywhere like just concisely to explain like foster collaborations network with great builders get your work seen by more people they've you know, or respect himself like that get education on how to set up practice yeah and that's one of the main like core benefits like a lot of people who join our meetings and our interest in joining our meetings are people who are interested in leading communities and using the fractal games and tools and processes to help their community.
So that's one of the core things that we're providing value for.
Where does that be?
The mission?
I don't know if it should be in the mission.
Yeah, it doesn't really seem like it should be in the mission.
It's too big there, there could be another thing like, I know the benefits.
Well, like, reasons to be part of it.
I'm not going to join.
Yeah.
I've seen that.
And I mean, at some point, you know, I think that.
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- What is it that?
- Yeah.
And maybe like for different kinds of stakeholders too.
So you mentioned an investor which is a good point and there is the potential for investors now that there's like retro PGF and all these different things where in addition to other kind of more private funding mechanisms, but there's lots of opportunities for investors to get involved as a stakeholder being financial investors.
Lots of opportunities for people to watch our meetings not to reason why they'd want to watch, just to get education and entertainment.
Also, people who participate, they're there for education and entertainment using the skills like networking, collaboration, like there's different benefits for each kind of stakeholder and different kind of person.
So we could have on the website like a section like for different groups of people.
There's investors, there's viewers, there's participants and I suppose that's most David, there's also like builders too or you know different ways but I suppose the builders are like Lee participants as well so each one has some different benefits and they all can be targeted like explained in terms of their benefits.
But our target audience is the participants.
I don't think so so the.
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Well, I made a set that I don't know if I said that quite but I don't know if that's quite right though if I did because Like we also want like People who are just viewing that's also great too like people are viewing and they're learning and they're setting up their own practical communities Like that's also a target audience I don't know if it's less important than the participants like obviously participants is a larger management and that's that's great So it's something that's the top priority, but also people who are viewing and starting five to communities and just learning from us is also really big and important too.
And then there's other fields too, like we do one of the best stairs and stuff like that.
So yeah, I don't know.
I suppose we're going to start locally and we're right right now.
And I don't think right now we're trying to get funding for Eden's office specifically this week.
Like so much.
Like if somebody came and they did it, then sure that's great.
And we want to, I'm just saying like this week for the proposal, I'm making for tomorrow.
I'm trying to answer the question of what to propose for tomorrow.
What's the most immediate needs and goals of the community?
And to that point, I think, to proposing a simple mission, drawing practical communities, starting to write out some of these things, like probably doing AI with this recording, and taking out some of the best parts and then adding to it, like the definition of practical communities, and then starting to define what the respect team is, and starting to define the benefits of it for various stakeholders.
And then the last part that I was going to focus on, I worked quite a bit on this morning was intense and it was in four intense which were like basically measurements or ways to grow fractic communities They were basically like growing funding towards commute to towards Community members of fractals so funding fractal community members that was the first one the second one is fractal software.
I don't know if this order is right or right, but growing fractal software So like building tools that help defense scans basically and also the techniques and so forth that we can cooperate A third one is growing fractal media like producing media that helps provide education resources or helps innovate fractals and then the fourth one is practical events and like how many communities are using this how many people are playing the games and so forth and so those are kind of like the four ways to grow fractals of the four intents to focus on and then each of those could have some measure outcomes like well how many videos are created how many broadest and already close how many people read and how much clothes was created how many developers are building it and so forth what's up (singing in foreign language) (music) ( TMT or LIURE MHmmightly singing) It is fractal funding, fractal software, fractal media and fractal events.
So, you have to do fractal funding?
I know.
I know.
For fractal funding, you have to think specifically, fractal funding and what kind of how a lot.
The fractal funding outside the hidden creators or fractal funding for hidden creators, or for other fractals that can general or the fractal funding is a bit too many questions that there is.
I mean I hear fractal funding.
There's no how large is the scope that this funding covers how many committed fractal communities do you have in mind.
Yeah well I think it's just how that be done like what would you consider as a successful completion of the funding of the fractals is when is it when many are brain distributed that's another thing.
So yes a couple questions there.
Are we just researching about ways that fractals can be I have more written out for each one of these and for practical funding specifically.
I have that like this, I mean it can be in any way that practical community members are funded and I think it probably makes sense for it to be just all practical communities because if one practical community is raising a lot of funding for people and practicals and that's helping people grow, practicals in general because making that practical community stronger.
to some extent you can put a preference for in-victic means members specifically, and that's natural that contributions specifically were in-victic means members get funded is more valuable, but still if somebody raised a lot of funding for alien world's factors one that that's also a contribution because that helps grow fractals in a major game and stuff like that that henceforth grows fractals.
And then there's a little note that like it's not always easy to tell how the funding is distributed.
In example of like San Joseos, they're directly distributing funding I think.
So based on respect scores, so that's one way to do it.
Another way is like what we're trying to do with RetroPGF, one of the ideas is like people could make lists and they could make a list based on the respect allocation and then you can see from there how much people fund in RetroPGF according to the respect scores because you can see how much are allocated lists I think.
Other examples include the proposal in major alien world track, let's start that one.
That was like, got funded with $5,000, whatever.
with the team members, also the-- - The way-- - through the Pamele collection, so I'm like that.
- So these are individual projects really.
- When you say how fractals funded, I told you, you talking about like, funding the whole fractal.
- No funding fractal community members, I think, because funding the whole fractal fractal aren't designed at least in many of the four-- - How much fractals are supposed to be self-self sufficient, like where they're supposed to get the funding to distribute their respect points, like who's supposed to, how is that gonna work?
Is it like looking for investors to put some money in the treasury?
- It could take a lot of informed.
So the way that we're doing it generally, like me, you into DOS, or without money in the treasury, like the Rackel itself isn't holding any assets.
And that's how is first designed in the Rackel D system, that there's no extra assets.
- In the Rackel assets?
they're going to win from let's say the user spec points how they get the would they would our fractuses and to get any like you told me that fractuses and to get like monetary resources basically to participants based on how much they contribute but how does how that work if who who's initiative has to be to look out for investors or someone to sponsor and put money in the treasury, there's no such.
And there's no money in the treasury, how would people that come to the meeting get their distribution of rewards in a monetary value?
So there doesn't be money in the treasury from the community and there could be the way that Vlad's design fractals He thinks there should be a treasury and that people can get rewarded for that for example He tried that out with the alien rose fractal with the treasury of like a couple thousand dollars with the trillion And stuff like that and that gets the tribute it so that's one way it can work that gets distributed each week.
Yeah So that's one way that yeah, but where are those money like those money in the treasure?
They came from somewhere.
Yeah, so in the case of lad that came from the business that he gave to the - Yeah, but like in social.
- In general.
- I can come and make a word.
- So someone always has to give it.
So who's taking this kind of a step of reaching out to someone that can give in the treasure?
You know what I mean?
- I mean, it depends.
Like for example, with retro PGF, retro PGF is the treasure holder, the opt for the foundation in the CISN's house.
And we're reaching out.
We're writing the article, Clemens, and we're saying, hey, you guys should fund people participate in opt for the practical events for these reasons because it's beneficial for that.
So we're taking initiative there.
In the case of alien road tractor, Vlad saw a benefit to do it, so Vlad raised the funding and he did himself.
In the case of.
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- Is it a tractor?
How have you thought about it in fact?
- I thought about it in fact.
- Yeah.
- I mean, how is that going to be funded?
Let's say.
- I mean, even practical, I think.
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- Someone has to take the initiative to what?
- Oh, well, we thought about that.
Well, we've asked about the KYC question, to see if we could do that as the optimistic team.
And then we had some issues there.
So maybe we'll still do that, or maybe we'll have connections in retro PGF people or the Autos Foundation who directly fund that.
Or maybe there's also this opt-in.
I just saw Polygon as a $100 million fund now that they're distributing.
We have relationships and e-o's and stuff like that.
So basically like people who are very closely aligned with InVac both, step to them to do it.
And I've been seeking out these opportunities and seeing what's best.
At some point I said the E&F would do it.
They haven't done it yet, but maybe they won the future.
How do you expect for them to do it if you have an applied program?
Because people will see the value over time.
Right now there is no grant structure in EOS to do that.
You have contact with EOS and whoever else is running the incubator.
Have you tried it?
No.
I have tried it.
I have spoken with Brandon and Zach.
We are like two of the first two and three employees of EOS Foundation.
And I spoke with a lot of people on the fire say Chad, I just got to signal that that's not something that they're very interested in doing right now.
So that's why I wanted to reason why I said, "Okay, well, I think they will be very interested once they see the benefits, but they're not quite there yet.
" And there's better opportunities, say, for example, an optimism right now.
An optimism we made a lot of effort, and we're just getting started really, but we're in contact with them right now, and that's the best opportunity right now.
But then in addition to there's also, you know, like, our virtual has a lot of funding, probably guys a lot of funding Ethereum has a lot of funding and stuff like that.
So we can also branch out and just go with whatever opportunities make no sense.
But so in each community that gets these that the refractive process, there will be there has to be someone that reaches out for someone else to support and put one in the treasury.
They want people to receive money for their workers.
Yeah, because always have to be someone who gets some initiative.
I mean, like one of the key points.
Because really generally, people want to be.
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Imagine you're in the shoes of someone that just contributes to something that.
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They.
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They're not getting monetary value out of.
But they're spending their time working for it.
You know, they're gonna eventually want to receive something back.
And this is an important part to describe and have it described.
Because whoever wants to open a fractal, they have to know this detail that they have to like reach out and be proactive with the funding basically.
And because these were disrespect points that they can be used as to give out in all like monetary, like talking basically for each other's pick.
Like we didn't need a factor, but then this is not taken out from the air.
Someone has to do it.
Like someone has to work for it.
So this is not described anywhere.
But we should have got somewhere that's like, and it's hard to start a fight to community.
And like what are the recipes that go in the end?
We have to describe on the end-go of having a tract of community.
The end-go is that people get rewarded for their contributions.
And that's why we're contributing and ranking each other and keeping our spec point, so that we know who contributed the most, and that eventually or weekly they can get rewarded for it.
And this is like one of the main, if not the main thing about practice, and how that can work like long term.
So there has to be some sort of a treasury or some sort of a sort of odd.
Like a budget, basically.
that goes and indistributes funding based on the weekly contributions or monthly Totom some of the monthly contributions we can like I think this has to be described You were thinking because this is like useful for investors because they can see the long-term Kind of the vision in the scale of this process because for them if they did I haven't thought about that this process can be used for a long term of period, not just like for these meetings you know, which happened weekly and we're not like at the moment we're not Basically scaling this or we're not but taking out the full potential out of the process.
Because we're not really don't have that treasury to distribute funding each week based on the leveling and all of that.
And for investors or someone that is like more so like looking for a long term in opportunity.
If this is described and they see that this process that we're doing on a weekly basis can be applied on a much larger scale.
And if there's a treasury, that is like a large treasury and people get through the game To the respect and they get motivated to collaborate, contribute more and you know all of that like network and receive compensation for like they'll see the benefit much more.
And how everyone because right now since we don't have that like maybe people are not that motivated to perform to their best because we're not at the moment giving out like money as a return.
But the possibility in the future or in this like when it scales, like it can work like that.
So I think this has to be described in the website.
I agree.
This is something that we do want to convey across especially investors and not only investors but just people who let's say business owners and entrepreneurs that they have already teams working with.
Uh-huh.
Here, it makes me think that in addition to their intense, it probably makes sense to have, And maybe you also need addition to like the stakeholders too, because you like there's two things that are like, like two categories that are emerging in mind.
One is the intense and one is the stakeholders.
And like the benefits for stakeholders.
And I think both these sections, but definitely the intense it seems like.
- Who's the stakeholder?
At the moment the stakeholders are, whoever has the stake in the, where share holders?
- There's no share, officially.
Or like, there's no share.
What stake is more accurate, your stake can just mean any kind of person who has some sort of stake or interest in the community.
A shareholder is like a more specific definition, which is something different.
But the stake holders can be defined as like the people who are in the participants, at the meetings, it can be part of the stake does the viewers who are watching the show 'cause they have a stake and seeing how it goes and they're interested in watching this thing.
- I don't have any, like literally like portion of the pie in a way.
- It's different, I don't think they're.
- Yeah, yeah.
- So is that you measured or defined it, but I think that's kind of getting more into details and I think it's fine to call them a stakeholder or maybe we'd just use a different word, like interested party, like people were interested for some reason.
- Okay.
- And so like there's that and then there's investors.
- Maybe all day and there's something.
- Yeah, all day and share.
But then we wanna have something that's like more, I suppose target markets might be, - Yeah, they're different.
- And we have participants, we have audience members.
- Sorry, good for someone else.
- Sure.
- And we have investors and maybe there's builders and some other ones too.
- And we have to start it out a message accordingly to them.
- Yep.
And then there's also the intense.
And I think that what you're saying right now about having a, I think it makes sense to have a page that's like how to fund a fractal.
For example, the page about or rather in the intent, you have the intent that's saying fun fractals.
And you explain, you asked some questions before that I didn't quite answer yet, but you explained how to measure funding fractals.
And that could be people in community who are receiving funding from themselves, from retropeegee, for whatever other funding mechanism that they have.
And that's what they want to measure and want to increase.
And then we also have a page there that's like how to fund fractals and like in case you aren't familiar with the idea where like most people aren't like fractals or by the way where people can earn funds monetization by participating in these meetings and this is a great idea for these reasons for that more incentive and so forth and here's how to do it basically like you're saying like somebody in the group needs to reach out explain the benefits to somebody who sees the benefits and fund it or a business owner can fund a for their business to help grow their business, or somebody who, that's kind of what, what Blaya is trying to do, or somebody who has some ecosystem can fund the fractal to further the growth of their ecosystem, like trying to be the optimism in support.
And then we'll kind of lay at the steps, like, well, you need to grow your community, you need to have people, you need to give them these resources to share a lot of good idea and so forth.
And then you need to have somebody or multiple people get in contact with them.
And here's some funding sources you might want to go to, and we can list out, like, we know retropeegee and get coin stuff and there's also business and stuff like that.
So we can have a page like that about how to fund a fractal or like just more details about that and perhaps you can do a similar thing for each intent too.
So for like the code we'll make it say and if you're interested in building code then you can check out these resource like their repositories and check out these guidance stuff.
So I know by the way you said you wanted to just say for 15 minutes and it's been well over that some 40 minutes so I don't know if you want to keep on with this but that's my response there.
And I think there were other things that we brought up there getting close to loop on yet so I can go back into those if you want Or we can save it for later or organ in you going on.
I'm happy to keep talking about you if you want Why don't you create a video about talking about this thing?
The video would be much quicker to do and produce rather than writing a article and you can write a article Well those things I think are future mostly like right now I'm mostly focused on planning the retro pitches pgfs session and Catching up with stuff like that as well as making a proposal for tomorrow So I'm not trying to make the page about how to fund a fractal by tomorrow's meeting.
Right now the deliverals for tomorrow's meeting are making the proposal to start the mission and then have some detail about how the mission will be expanded on with the definition.
So forth.
Yeah, I think it's a great idea.
We should, that could be part of a, if you wanted to get together, we could do that on optimistic show where fractal joy or something like that or he didn't fact well I don't know but and well it's kind of kind of due to tomorrow as well because you know we can bring up this topic in tomorrow's meeting and then talk about it there and do it and do it then but but but ideally there should be ideally there should be videos in articles feature these and the article can be rooted out of the video because we record the video and then we use AI to make the article that's what i mean yeah so and this is kind of the first step here because we can transcribe this and then organize it into like the rough outline for what we'll talk about in the video.
Are you free for like 10 minutes after?
- What about right now?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, why?
Because I can show you some resources, like social media resources that have ways to ways and methods, processes, tips, ways to allow information about your different target audiences.
So, there are useful information for us.
I think.
Okay.
It's basically marketing resources that when we probably when we take the time to fill them out it would make much more sense and it would be already stored on more document that can be transformed further into notion.
Okay um do you want to see them?
I mean I do want to get done a lot of other tasks today too so I want to I've really big lists of stuff to do but if you want to prioritize that and show me if ten minutes I'm going to go with that or I also if you want to just tag me a notion and I don't know what the best way you think it is I'm happy to do it everything is best basically if you have ten minutes I can show you okay okay you're not showing me now I mean oh my laptop alright well what do you want to go in now and do we want to stretch more or talk more no I want to go in okay it sounds good good.
Well thanks to the great conversation.
Any last one I'll send the recording?
No.
Okay.
Cool.
Did me as a good plan for tomorrow as far as like those four intense and that mission.
I mean, those intense like, on then, I'll be asking you.
He didn't really explain what the intense would be used for and who and what the real and how we gonna try to how we gonna try to go to the track.
Okay, so y'all have to have to afford about the intents, like how they'd be awarded and stuff like that, or would they be rewarded?
And so what I'm thinking is the intents, are for a end to 13 weeks season starting in early 2024 where I suppose it's mostly for the participants but it can also be for any other stakeholders or interested parties in there.
Like people are watching, they wanna also follow along and she or a son or whatever, then or participate in their own way, you definitely have to have to have been here meetings, but still build their own practice or whatever it is, then they can also be doing that.
Basically, intense is just for anybody who's interested in doing with the momentum of the community and going back and community.
And so those intent are like specific ways to lead and accomplish that mission of growing practice goals.
And I think that there should be-- We pulled the keeping track of the progress and how.
So some of them we just put metrics down perhaps for that we could just talk in advance.
I wrote that we'll make a report like summarizing it and I can do that at the end of the season basically.
So that's a very line with my goals in general to make the report and to follow up on that progress.
So I could write a report and say, in this season, there is two new fractals that started.
And there is a total of 50 meetings held, and there's many participants that stuff like that.
And so I can do a lot of that.
- I have participants to get to know of the purpose.
- Well participants-- - Whoever continues, where are they getting them?
- Yeah, so there's several things.
I mean, one, there's the benefits that we could further elaborate on, like the networking and stuff that always happened every week, the networking collaboration stuff like that.
And we can also try to explain that too and bring it to the attention better by writing about it in the stuff I've been bringing up examples and use cases or rather like testimonials and stuff like that.
And then also specifically like others who talked about like learning to shark-rack the community every just being is learning and getting better at that and then some of the goals are like specifically Related towards that, getting awards for their participation and getting rewards from the faculty of fundinging panel.
So those are some of the things that they.
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What are their rewards and the awards?
What's that?
What are their rewards and awards?
So the awards are things like the respect points and the teasing stuff like that.
And I think that what we should aim to make the.
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And the teasing collectibles and stuff like that, the people can get as awards.
over the coming weeks and months and days and then the rewards are the funding from funding sources that were aiming to achieve in our core intent about factor funding.
Shall we beat it all?
The rewards are essentially the funding that we're aiming to attract and help communities get and help community members attain in our core intent for proactive funding.
So the awards are like entities and the recept points stuff like that and then the rewards are funds and that's what our core intent about proactive funding is aiming to do.
So for example, we've received some funding from people in the Pomello Collection for in practical.
That's help some people raise some funding and people from alien worlds have helped being elected to get turned funding by our collaboration with alien worlds or people.
People are over themselves, but basically we're trying to quantify how the fractal is helping them do that.
So for example, if Retro PGF decides to get funding to often impact the participants using a list - That means for example what blood did you want to, for example what blood did with, I think proposing to run fractal eos like eos fractal from what I've heard, and funding that he got.
You want this to be recorded, for example.
So because that's an example of someone doing a getting funded.
Yeah, I've allowed received funding for building practical tools, then that would count for both intents of building tools and rate funding.
But what if people don't want to share how much they funding they go?
I mean that's okay, I don't think we'll be able to.
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It will accurately measure everything, but we'll just do it how well it will depend.
And a lot of times you can see it, like for example, retropea Jeff, you can see how much everybody earned so from there you can see the other one.
Where?
What?
Can you come soon?
Yes.
It's like taking 10 minutes to back.
I had a lot of stuff.
There's an answer question.
Do you want to wrap it up now or what?
No way.
We can keep talking about it off if you want.
What do you want to show you what I think will help for you?
Okay, let's go in.
Sounds good.
I suppose I'll end the recording now.
Okay, bye bye, thanks.