EF 47: Alien Worlds and Documentation
In our forty seventh meeting, we discuss strategies to improve documentation for our tools and a proposal to support Lisa & Duane as planetary leaders in Alien Worlds! 🛸
Date: April 26th, 2023
These show notes are an early work in progress and will be updated in the future. Enjoy!
Table of Contents
- Please Note
- Alien Worlds Proposal
- Related Posts
- EF 48: Signaling Alien Worlds
- Alien World’s ƒractal
Alien Worlds Proposal
We reached an informal supermajority consensus that Lisa and Duane should be custodians during this meeting, but decided to propose it again the next week to more formally approve the proposal with the Eden+Fractal process and inspire a deeper discussion. You can read a brief summary that Dan wrote about this Alien Worlds proposal here and explore below for this week’s timestamps. You can also see the show notes for meeting 48 for more exciting details 💫
More highlights coming soon!
Eden fractal 47,
0:12 Dan opens meeting, Dan shares presentation, recaps last weeks meeting. Topics proposed for today 1- should Lisa and Duane be ejected as custodians for planet eyeke on alien world. 2- should someone be funded to improve Eden fractal documentation.
4:05 starts breakout rooms
7:51 Eric assists in moderating room
8:09 Rosmari not a lot to share, had meeting with Dan, Vlad and Tadas about alien world. Thinking about best way to contribute. Talks about what Eden fractal has been like for her. Participating in Aquadac Douglas meeting, being supportive.
11:47 Jorge shares screen, shows events from Spanish speaking fractal, shows website that he created. Created a task list fir his community. Gives details.
16:27 Eric his goal is to facilitate what we do here to sandbox, alien world. Made some changes on center for governance. On art association in real world, had discussion on getting board members on board. Writing a prospectus to get approval , trying to trim it down.
19:21 Dan shares screen. Working on a new brand, fractal joy. Basically game shows and tools to help grow community. Working closely with Vlad and Tadas, also Rosmari. Promoting fractal process, helping all fractals grow, especially gameland audience. Spoke with upland team and applied to be an exhibitor at upland convention. Plan to reach out to several communities who are unaware of Eden fractal. At consensus conference right now. Going Continue advocate and network to build relationships. Working quite a bit with alien world community, working with Michael, founder of alien world. Interested in collaborating with Eden fractal with alien worlds. Trying to help start an alien world fractal. Made proposal if someone should be funded to improve Eden fractal documentation, reached out to Jiyon to ask if he’d be interested. Suggestions on how to raise funds.
24:41 Space wrangler Joe Mets with Eric’s group, got a feel for what it is. Excited to hear all that’s going on. Has questions for both Dan and Jorge
26:04 Dan thanks Joe, responds to Joe about upland, spoke with Danny and plans to follow up.
26:43 Joe said he has a ticket for the event dan is planning to attend, hopefully he could go and would support Dan.
27:14 Eric comments if your turning fractal joy to a business, he would love to be part of that. It fits right in to what Eric is trying to do. Dan responds he is excited to collaborate with Eric and Jorge
28:08 Jorge asks Eric about his story telling, Eric asks Jorge to clarify questions. He wasn’t telling stories, he was killing stories, goes into details on what he means. Jorge questions Dan on his time management, asks if he has a special strategy for time management.
31:30 Dan responds about his focus, how he focuses his time. Going after exciting growth opportunities. Strategy to help people cooperate to make best experience possible. Reaching out to new communities , upland and alien worlds are closely aligned, great growth opportunity to focus on. Interested in ethereum as well. Applied for a git coin grant.
34:07 Jorge thanks Dan, it would be awesome if Dan could share. Comments Dan is one of the most productive guys in eos ecosystem,
34:50 Joe has question for Jorge, thinks the task list is great, of what people could do to contribute. Asks to briefly detail the list, Jorge responds to Joe detailing the process,names responsibilities and tasks
39:23 Joe offers to help Dan with fractal joy artwork, reach out at any point. Dan thanks him and will reach out, also be happy to connect if possible at upland
40:39 Dan starts fractal gram to prepare for vote, in both zoom and telegram chat Level 6-Dan, level 5-Jorge, level 4-Eric, level 3-Rosmari, level 2- Joe Delegate- Jorge
59:31 Eric mentions if anyone wants to have a separate talk about time manage let him know , Rosmari and Dan respond they would like to
1:02:04 Dan welcomes everyone back to main room, commented Vlad did not hit election, Dan will do it. Possibly not enough delegates to pass proposal unless late joiners. Another topic that might be good to discuss us having more people other than Vlad to set up election action for votes.
1:04:15 Patrick commented that Noam raised this point, who was the admin to start elections.
1:04:46 Tadas we need to change smart contract in order to make that change , Patrick asking if it would be possible if more dynamic msig could take those actions
1:05:44 Dan mentioned that Vlad hasn’t been to last 2 meetings. Hoping he’s well. Taking a little time to load election action.
1:06:42 Perry makes an observation this is a great opportunity to highlight how important to have all processes documented. Asked about fractal-gram, everyone should have access. Putting everything out in one place for everyone to understand
1:09:10 Dan thanks Perry and tells Perry fractal gram is very well documented, shared documentation. Agrees with other points.
1:10:05 Perry expands on his thoughts saying we need more in one location. Links are appreciated but not the same thing.
Dan responds to Perry, he has creating a document to organize all tools into one document. Patience is needed for this completion. As a moderator I am asking to to stay on topic,
Marco wants to retract his support for perry, initially he thought he wanted to outline reward system, then he added stuff on top.
1:15:25 Patrick put it link for Eden creators/ tools into chat to show the process, it’s all described. We already have the information you continue to ask for. Too much repetition in Perry’s question. We are working each week to improve the process. Eden fractal 6 th update upcoming. Idea to restart brainstorming sessions to help Eden fractal.
1:19:43 Dan very pleased about upcoming brain storming sessions. Still having tech issues, everyone please write consensus results in telegram chats. Perry and Dan go back and forth. Wants to get on to this weeks topics. Shows presentation of topics fir the week. Topics proposed are should Lisa and Duane be elected for custodians on planet eyeke on alien world. Explains details, other topic should someone be funded to improve Eden fractal documentation. Details proposal. Shows tools article that he’s being working on that he hopes to have someone help with completion. Hoping to ask jiyon if interested because his previous work with git book. Looking for funding to get this done.
1:26:54 Patrick jumped in to thank Dan for topic to 47 it’s very needed. Loves it. Announces he will donate 1000 to eos Eden fractal account and will continue to sustain jiyon for his work. We are a good group and we are all doing well
1:29:59 Eric just wants to confirm questions, when you say improve documentation exactly what are we talking about and what’s the real question on should Lisa and Duane be elected.
1:30:43 Dan responds to Eric, for tools jiyon organizes things in a better way, making it more accessible. Git book has a lot of benefits. Patrick jumps in, to clarify the meaning of improving documentation. Answer to second question about alien world. Eden fractal sharing opinions, explains how best we can voice our opinion. With alien worlds in particular, been in communication with founder of alien world and he’s interested in voting for people in alien world at Eden fractal. Explains details.
1:35:17 Perry wants to respond to proposal, bylaw question. Hearing a forked tongue, we’re really just making signals.
1:37:50 Dan responds to perry , his view about automy. Anyone can send eos to eos fractal account. Not encouraging to donate behind our 100 eos a week. Big advocate for sharing signals. Reducing liability by avoiding shared pools of assets. Fan of donations to fund someone to do work. Using our opinions to get funding for our projects. Much prefer to advocate for signals and opinions.
1:42:15 Patrick reads out dans message, community should respect opinions people can choose to fund them. For Patrick the value of Eden fractal is all about ideas and information. Your funding for someone is your choice. Doesn’t see Eden fractal as dao, sees Eden fractal as a catalyst, should not be focused on people better ideas and information. Wants see Eden fractal as a network to learn. Sends minimal amount eos to Eden fractal to limit liabilities. Patrick encourages more people to help. Everything here is on chain. Responds to perry on mindmapping, his contribution to help Eden fractal. Suggest Perry could use his d news to help Eden fractal. Wants to not fight with Perry. We are really doing is a catalyst for information. Perry asks Patrick to clarify what Patrick asked, Patrick explains. Patrick encourages Perry to push Eden fractal with his technology. Everyone has his platform, then we can collaborate
1:54:16 Perry , thinks discussion is bringing to light important facts. Comments on Patrick thinking we’re not a dao, and our host doesn’t want donors. Two Important facts. Is this decision what all of us have decided. Brings need for mission statement and bylaws.
1:56:08 Patrick responds to perry it’s not correct
1:56:55 Tadas , responds to perry what his thoughts have to do with anything. Does not see Perry’s questions relevant to Eden fractal. Perry does t know how Eden fractal works, Our delegates change at every election, the fact that we haven’t made them is proof that the the community is happy with the way we are. Tadas a d Perry go back and forth, Tadas trying to explain the way Eden fractal works. Asks how he thinks a persons ranking are affecting by an individual votes. Tadas explains how this works
2:00:58 Marco responds to Patrick, if you’re not going to suggest turning it off, then it’s a moot point. Perry responds with his thoughts about a dao
2:03:03 Dan reads out from chat, encourages everyone to read them
2:03:49 Jorge comments that this community is working smoothly with the small donations. Challenges Perry to bring on large donation , let’s not bring in bigger donor drama unless it’s actually happening.
2:05:10 Dan shares comments from chat, huge opportunity regarding alien worlds
2:06:46 Eric look at us as a start up, we use seed money. If you’re going to seek a large donation then you have to be prepared. Thinks perry has a good idea , key is we’re just starting the process, with decision making we’re still rudimentary. We’ve done good , got smart contracts, haven’t agreed on what we want to do, we have tools, we’re still basic. As far as a dao, we’re not there yet. Once we get there, then we can grow more and scale.
2:11:16 Dan reads out from chat, excellent comments. Dan thinks alien worlds could help provide a solution
2:13:13 Patrick shout to Eric and Tadas. What we have to do, strengthen our process, there is no behind the scene, everything is on chain. Next steps we have to do better marketing, nice networking. Promote collaboration, everyone can make his contribution, promoting not only Eden fractal, also yourself
2:16:16 Dan comments not enough delegates to vote, but encourages everyone to share their thoughts on topic proposals and they will be brought up for next week. Dan shares presentation on proposals, alien worlds website, details their voting system, custodians how it works. Describes how this it may help with fund Eden fractal community members. Dan shares a little about fractal joy, aiming to reach out to alien worlds more. Shares early stages about cignals and how helpful it would be.
2:23:41 Lisa thanks Dan for his support, it’s a true honor and pleasure to introduce the ecosystem of eos and all the communities that have been thinking about governance to this game. Exciting opportunity to pull them together. Thinks a lot of people will starting to attend eden fractal. Will be having and unconference, hopes you all join. Lots of opportunities for everyone.
2:27:37 Dan thanks Lisa, praises Lisa and all the work she’s doing.
2:28:19 Lisa tells everyone they can go to alien world telegram community, also alien world website.
2:28:59 Dan mentions Eric is building central governance for alien world. Dan will make this proposal next week. Thinks they’re a lot of great opportunities collaboration between these two communities. Patrick shared mind map for alien worlds
2:30:31 Patrick comments mindmap for alien world is not updated, if he joins again he will update alien world mindmap.
2:31:37 Dan thanks Patrick fir alien world mindmap, and Patrick doing interview for Duane. Dan reads out chats,
2:32:41 Patrick thinks better vibes today, wants the best for Eden fractal. Don’t be focused on Perry and Patrick, focus on what Eden fractal is doing.
2:34:26 Perry hopes we’re all trying to bring something amazing for the world. Feels this group has the raw materials for an amazing human dynamic that can completely change how we organize. That’s why he’s putting this energy here.
2:34:55 Dan thanks Perry, he completely agrees. Starts to close meeting, everyone gets hats. Go Eden fractal, Go eos ship
In our 48th meeting, we explore a pioneering proposal for Alien Worlds and signal our consensus opinion that Lisa & Duane should be custodians on Planet Eyeke 👽
A community of cosmic explorers and intergalactic heroes who play fractal consensus games to create wonderful extropy across the universe!
An introduction to some of our favorite games and a philosophical exploration of how games can create profound benefits for all!
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