EF 67: Growing with Optimism
What are the synergies between Eden Fractal and Optimism? In the next stage of our epic journey we explore opportunities to help humanity flourish and summon Ether’s Phoenix with innovations in retroactive public goods funding 🌱 🌞
Date: September 13th, 2023
Table of Contents
- Discussion on Optimism and RetroPGF Grants
- Optimism Fractal Grant
- Respect Game Recap
- Fractalgram Updates
- MSIG Updates
- Eden Fractal Topics Update
- Upland Fractal Discussion
- Dynamics of Hegemony Game
- Proposed in Consortium
- Eden Fractal Topics Game
- Related Posts
- Introduction to Optimism
- EF 64: Changing Community Keys
Please Note: These show notes are an early work in progress and will be updated in the future. Enjoy!
Discussion on Optimism and RetroPGF Grants
At 26:36, Dan re-introduces Optimism related topics and explains retroactive public goods funding. At 1:23:00 these topics on the Eden Fractal Topics page get more detailed coverage, including Intro to Optimism, Optimism RetroPGF, and the Optimism RFG 6 - Academic Research topics.
The Academic grant was another opportunity discussed at 1:39:56, aligned with the work from members such as Jorge and Eric, which got interested to participate in future rounds. Dan provided links and educated the group on the Academic grant during 2:09:55, while also informing about the RetroPGF grant details between 2:09:55 - 2:10:49.
Optimism Fractal Grant
After presenting again briefly at EF 67 between 1:30:15 - 1:31:05, this opened the floor for an enthusiastic group discussion on how these grants can help Eden Fractal members and ways to help Optimism, including Optimism Fractal grant details at 1:34:30.
At 1:39:56, Dan continued on Optimism Fractal grant plan, followed by a group discussion on Optimism Proposal’s software development between 1:45:06 - 1:54:16 with a focus on EVM implementation for Optimism community chain. The high interest from members inspired a natural Q and A session, where Dan responded to a few group questions on Optimism fractal, Eden Fractal and RetroPGF synergies and benefits at 1:54:16.
To further engage the community, Dan presented visually the Optimism Fractal grant proposal with a close up on questions and answers between 2:02:01 - 2:07:47. This provided more colour on the application process and initiatives from members.
We’re working on a comprehensive article with links about Optimism opportunities, so stay tuned! 🔴
Respect Game Recap
During the breakout room discussion, at 5:07 Noam shared about a game he is developing using NASA software where people can design orbits to Mars. He discussed figuring out optimal launch windows and assigning tasks for landing robots on Mars' moon Phobos.
At 10:00, Eric gave an update on getting his dissertation prospectus approved, which lays groundwork for implementing fractal concepts using games and workshops. He talked about testing fractal concepts using the Gnomes game and using AI to host more fractal events and workshops.
Perry discussed participating in EdenDAO meetings at 15:44, while observing their governance dynamics. He shared thoughts on maintaining decentralization and autonomy in organizations.
At 20:09, Jorge provided an update via chat about securing funding through the Eden tech working group to support continued development of the Fractally app by him and Vlad.
At 25:46, Dan gave an overview of optimism and its use of retroactive public goods funding, noting its alignment with Eden Fractal values. He discussed an optimism fractal grant proposal and provided Eden Fractal msig updates.
Rosmari discussed her work at 29:20 covering show notes, video editing, thumbnails, and ideas for improving the Eden Fractal website.
At 35:38, Dan read an update from Jorge about participating in the Eden tech working group and helping secure funding to bring the Fractally protocol to Eden on EOS.
After the group troubleshot in real environment Fractalgram issue, Tadas promptly followed up with instructions on how to fix at the Fractalgram’s group via a message, also showing where is the log out button here as part of the instructions steps.
The steps to fix the issue is described below (copied from Tadas’s statement):
To logout go to the menu on the top left -> settings -> click on three dots -> "Log out".
Also in case the Telegram app needs an update, a button "Update Telegram" should appear on the left. Click it - page should reload. If issues persist afterwards, please logout and login again (see steps outlined above). It should work after logging in again.
At 25:46, Dan provided updates on troubleshooting issues with implementing the new Eden Fractal multi-signature account. Continued on during 1:32:56 to explain he tried creating the msig using msig.app but faced technical issues that he documented. Vlad offered to help resolve the msig issues.
Eden Fractal Topics Update
Topics is a new Cagendas mini-game which helps the group moves quicker from topic to topic and allows an upvoting system which decides topics in real time. The agenda and topics for this episode is shared in this Eden Fractal Topics page. This page is presented at the meeting at 1:23:00.
You can check a quick guidance on how to propose new topics, ways to reorder agenda, and ways to get access described in this page. Also can learn more about the creation of this new topics game in this article EdenCreators.com/tropics, and reach out if there are any additional questions and/or suggestions. We are working on a more comprehensive guide on educating how to easily submit and upvote a topic through the Topics agenda game. Coming soon!
Upland Fractal Discussion
An Eden Fractal community leader named Spacewrangler Joe recently started an new fractal community for players of metaverse games like Upland and Alien Worlds. Upland is one of the most popular Web3 games in the world and has deep partnerships with world class organizations like FIFA and the NFL Players Association.
You can see Spacewrangler Joe share an overview at 45:49 sharing his experience hosting the first couple Upland Fractal meetings with about ten community members during a recent Eden Fractal meeting. He mentioned using NFTs on the Upland metaverse game to record decisions as a primitive form of fractal governance. This would allow agreements made during fractal meetings to be recorded on the blockchain. You can learn more at Upland.me and our article about Upland, which features several news shows and articles written about Upland by Dan Singjoy.
Dynamics of Hegemony Game
Dynamics of Hegemony is an exciting new Web3 strategy game that features fractal social games with squads. The creator of the game is a highly successful entrepreneur named Gnome who also co-founded the UX Network. Gnome has played a leadership role in many Eden Fractal meetings and helped form the Alien Worlds Fractal. He now plans to empower his projects with fractal social games, as you can see in the ‘Governance and Strategy’ section of DynamicsOfHegemony.com. It states, “Experience democracy like never before. Join strategic 'squad' minigames, where, as a part of your faction, you'll collaborate to select leaders and establish squad rankings.”
Gnome recently built a new strategic game, which is currently in beta as a few Eden Fractal members are helping with the testing as they play. Details about how to play the game and instructions can be explored and users can register to play at the main website. At 21:16, Dan introduced the Dynamics of Hegemony game created by Gnome, which enables faction cooperation through strategic fractal squads. There was a discussion at 8:09 and 39:25 on the game's mechanics for enabling cooperation between factions using fractal squads.
Proposed in Consortium
Eden Fractal Topics Game
0:00 - Welcome!
0:28 - Dan previews the key agenda topics to be discussed in today's meeting, including optimism, retroactive public goods funding, academic research grants, Eden Fractal tool updates, and more.
3:02 - Dan explains the new "Topics Game" structure they are using to organize the agenda, based on evolved versions of the Tropics game they have experimented with in recent meetings and provides msig updates
4:15 - BREAKOUT ROOM STARTS
5:07 - Noam shares updates on NASA’s program for Designing orbits including to Mars, also provides updates on the game he is developing and think what assignment to do for people to try it
8:09 - Discussion about Gnomes game Dynamics of Hegemony and how it incorporates faction cooperation through fractal squads.
10:00 - Eric shares an update on getting his dissertation prospectus approved, which lays the groundwork for implementing fractal concepts. Works on testing out fractal concepts using Gnomes game, using AI to host more events and fractal workshops in the Center for Governance. Emphasizes the need for integrated fractal tools that make the process easy for newcomers
15:44 - Perry on his participation in EdenDAO meetings observing their moderation systems to better understand decentralized governance dynamics. Shares thoughts on how to maintain decentralization and autonomy in organizations
20:09 - Jorge shares an update via chat on his tech work within the Eden community and funding received to support him and Vlad’s further development of the new Fractal app
21:16 - Dan shares screen and presents Gnome’s new game Dynamics of Hegemony. Dan started to create an article about it. Talking about Fractally’s site and sharing about Optimism development and branding
25:46 - Dan provides an introductory overview of optimism, which uses retroactive public goods funding, and notes its high alignment with Eden Fractal values, discusses the grant proposal submitted for launching an Optimism Fractal community, building associated tools, and more, gives updates on troubleshooting issues with implementing the new Eden Fractal multi-signature (msig) account
29:20 - Rosmari’s work on show notes, editing videos, using AI to help with weekly reports, perfecting thumbnails, work on Optimism grant, ideas on website template updates
35:38 - Dan reads out Jorge’s chat on his weekly contribution. Participated in AW fractal, tech working group, updates on raising funding through a proposal with Vlad on bringing the fractally protocol to Eden on EOS meetings
39:25 - Discussion on setting up Fractalgram, Fractalien Worlds meeting updates, Gnome’s new game Dynamics of Hedgemony
45:49 - Joe gives an update on a second meeting with an Upland fractal metaverse game and using NFTs to record decisions on chain in a primitive form of fractal governance, thanks members for support on setting fractals
50:22 - The group attempts to troubleshoot issues with the Fractalgram app. Tadas joins meeting, the group replicates the problem and Tadas diagnoses the issue
1:05:11 - Tadas on future steps to resolve Fractalgram issues, mostly related to Telegram server update Consensus voting Level 6 - Dan, Level 5 - Eric, Level 4 - Jorge, Level 3 - Rosmari, Level 2 - Perry, Level 1 - Noam Delegate - Eric
1:15:59 - BREAKOUT ROOM ENDS
1:18:45 - Return to main room
1:23:00 - Dan shares screen for Cagendas! Presents Eden Fractal Topics, overview on Intro to Optimism, Optimism RetroPGF, Arbitrum Grants, Optimism RFG-6, and promoting Eden Fractal
1:34:30 - Group discussion on how these grants can help Eden Fractal members and ways to help Optimism, Optimism Fractal grant details
1:39:56 - Dan continues on Optimism Fractal grant plan and provides link for Academic grant info, shares link to Notion page
1:45:06 - Group discussion on Optimism Proposal, details on software languages
1:47:16 - Tadas replies on Solidity question, explains EOS EVM is one of the solidity chains
1:49:49 - Perry, Noam and Tadas on EVM, technicalities in implementation for Optimism community chain
1:54:16 - Dan responds to group on Optimism fractal, Eden Fractal and RetroPGF synergies and proposal benefits
2:02:01 - Dan shares screen and goes through the Optimism grant proposal
2:09:55 - Conversation between Eric, Dan Rosmari continues on the Academic grant
2:12:51 - Eric shares more details on his team’s project opportunities with non-profits, building affordable housing system, technology and investments
2:20:18 - Group general discussion
2:21:15 - Conversation continues between group on sustainability, technology, innovations in housing, difference between decentralization and centralization
2:51:54 - Dan offers for any last thoughts before wrap up
2:54:05 - Dan wraps up the meeting. Hats on!
This article provides an introduction to Optimism and an educational material on ways to learn about Optimism’s ecosystem. There are variety of helpful resources collated with the aim to inspire collaboration and more public goods!
How can communities create order while increasing independence? We endeavor through the wild to determine the configuration and key holders for the eden.fractal msig account 🔐 🐵
Music by Kjartan Abel. More details at EdenCreators.com/attributions